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    correct ukemi for osoto-otoshi

    Cichorei Kano
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    Post by Cichorei Kano Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:36 am

    As a note aside, it is interesting to know that some believe that jûdô breakfalls are made up and in reality don't work ...

    http://smashpass.blogspot.be/2009/04/break-falling-is-bs.html
    Ben Reinhardt
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    Post by Ben Reinhardt Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:29 am

    Cichorei Kano wrote:As a note aside, it is interesting to know that some believe that jûdô breakfalls are made up and in reality don't work ...

    http://smashpass.blogspot.be/2009/04/break-falling-is-bs.html

    I just love it when people claim to be some sort of science professional, quote studies that they can't even reference (too busy!), then commit the same logical fallacies they accuse others of doing in order to "prove" their point.

    Cichorei Kano
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    Post by Cichorei Kano Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:48 am

    Ben Reinhardt wrote:
    Cichorei Kano wrote:As a note aside, it is interesting to know that some believe that jûdô breakfalls are made up and in reality don't work ...

    http://smashpass.blogspot.be/2009/04/break-falling-is-bs.html

    I just love it when people claim to be some sort of science professional, quote studies that they can't even reference (too busy!), then commit the same logical fallacies they accuse others of doing in order to "prove" their point.


    Also funny is that the alleged study (I recognized them because he mentioned the link to tai-chi) actually found the opposite of what he claimed !  This is the one:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17764975

    The findings of later studies were similar to the earlier one, which makes the entire blogpost somewhat awkward:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22537568

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19407919

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2873348/
    afulldeck
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    Post by afulldeck Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:36 am

    Cichorei Kano wrote:
    The findings of later studies were similar to the earlier one, which makes the entire blogpost somewhat awkward:

    Quite the understatement. I think his blog post on breakfalls was bu*sh*t. Proper ukemi has saved my life at least twice-probably three times, during motorcycle accidents.
    Ben Reinhardt
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    Post by Ben Reinhardt Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:09 am

    afulldeck wrote:
    Cichorei Kano wrote:
    The findings of later studies were similar to the earlier one, which makes the entire blogpost somewhat awkward:

    Quite the understatement. I think his blog post on breakfalls was bu*sh*t. Proper ukemi has saved my life at least twice-probably three times, during motorcycle accidents.

    But wait, you are not a senior citizen so your anecdotes don't count !
    afulldeck
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    Post by afulldeck Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:37 am

    Ben Reinhardt wrote:
    afulldeck wrote:
    Cichorei Kano wrote:
    The findings of later studies were similar to the earlier one, which makes the entire blogpost somewhat awkward:

    Quite the understatement. I think his blog post on breakfalls was bu*sh*t. Proper ukemi has saved my life at least twice-probably three times, during motorcycle accidents.

    But wait, you are not a senior citizen so your anecdotes don't count !

    Not according to my local drug store :-)
    Cichorei Kano
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    Post by Cichorei Kano Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:31 pm

    afulldeck wrote:
    Ben Reinhardt wrote:
    afulldeck wrote:
    Cichorei Kano wrote:
    The findings of later studies were similar to the earlier one, which makes the entire blogpost somewhat awkward:

    Quite the understatement. I think his blog post on breakfalls was bu*sh*t. Proper ukemi has saved my life at least twice-probably three times, during motorcycle accidents.

    But wait, you are not a senior citizen so your anecdotes don't count !

    Not according to my local drug store :-)

    or the diapers in his garbage ...
    Jihef
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    Post by Jihef Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:44 pm

    Ben Reinhardt wrote:
    Cichorei Kano wrote:As a note aside, it is interesting to know that some believe that jûdô breakfalls are made up and in reality don't work ...
    http://smashpass.blogspot.be/2009/04/break-falling-is-bs.html
    I just love it when people claim to be some sort of science professional, quote studies that they can't even reference (too busy!), then commit the same logical fallacies they accuse others of doing in order to "prove" their point.
    Right. Logical fallacies is the word.
    What surprises me is this bloggers profile :
    Jason wrote:Break Falling is B.S.
    About two years ago I started training in Judo. (…) About Me / Jason / Saulo Ribeiro BJJ Brown Belt. Judo Black Blelt. Owner, Iowa City Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Molecular Biologist, University of Iowa. Military Veteran.  
    So this person started judo two years ago; he is now a judo black belt. And ukemi is BS. Smells like…
     affraid
    afulldeck
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    Post by afulldeck Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:48 am

    Cichorei Kano wrote:
    afulldeck wrote:
    Ben Reinhardt wrote:
    afulldeck wrote:
    Cichorei Kano wrote:
    The findings of later studies were similar to the earlier one, which makes the entire blogpost somewhat awkward:

    Quite the understatement. I think his blog post on breakfalls was bu*sh*t. Proper ukemi has saved my life at least twice-probably three times, during motorcycle accidents.

    But wait, you are not a senior citizen so your anecdotes don't count !

    Not according to my local drug store :-)

    or the diapers in his garbage ...

    You got that right....

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