DougNZ wrote:Incidentally, and straying slightly off-topic ... have any of you noticed that the higher a ju-jitsuka is graded the greater their proclivity to teach knife defences in seminar? And their uke are always well trained to use long, straight thrusts and maintain their balance whilst fully extended for lengthy periods of time.
Is that what is referred to as "holding your arm out while someone beats the crap out of you?"
Yes. It is also what is referred to as 'traditional ju-jitsu'.
And one of the biggest mistakes in not seeing the flaws inherent in a training method and not doing something aboutr it.
So beyond beginer, just learning a technique, you don't allow Uke to do that in training.
If you don't study any kind of blade training, then you would be advised to take advantage of all the documented on video prison and street knifings and have Ukes operate in that fashion.
If you do study blade, you should still do the above.
People don't leave it out there, they often overcommit, can be "drawn" but they don't stick the arm out there and the legion of people who do that give "Traditional" "Classical" "Combat" Ju Jutsu a bad rep.
All training methodologies have their flaws and imposition of rules are going to have flaws, it's recognizeing thm and if they have more flaws than positives you toss them, if not you make up for those flaws in trining methods that don't have the same flaw.
Like a Judoka doing some supplimental Boxing so he don't get punched in the head so easy outside a bar. Or learns to take it so he can get in and do his thing he's done in Judo.
Where I live, knives are legal with in reason (No Bowie, Double edge, Daggers or Dirks) and you can't conceal them (and that part can be a loaded term, determinded by how good your lawyer is) and if you are attcked by 2 people it is considered deadly force and you can use a knife.
Also you can against 1 on your property if you have reason to fear harm.
2 days ago a man a block down the street backed another one out of his yard and down to the park in front of my house with a drywall knife. The police did not arrest him after they came. (Long story, doing much to do with the other guy's and his friends actions when the police were there)
And about 2.5 miles from my home and our dojo.
Yeah dumb that knife training because people don't do that, do they?