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    Post by Nagaoka Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:18 am

    http://www.shinkitaikarate.ca/Scona/Glossary/K/kohaku%20obi/kohaku%20obi.html
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    Post by Cichorei Kano Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:20 am

    Nagaoka wrote:http://www.shinkitaikarate.ca/Scona/Glossary/K/kohaku%20obi/kohaku%20obi.html

    Very interesting. I notice the reference is ... The JudoForum. Makes you wonder who might have been the author ...

    The title "後方下段払い" is ... um ... 'interesting' too ...
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    Post by Nagaoka Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:37 am

    Who is the autor?
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    Post by Steve Leadbeater Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:31 am

    I'll give you 3 guesses.............!!
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    Post by Jonesy Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:55 am

    紅白帯 = kohaku obi?
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    Post by NBK Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:54 am

    What position is this meant to be?
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    Post by DougNZ Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:04 pm

    I wonder if Patrick Toner sensei knows he is being used in some American karate glossary?
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    Post by Jonesy Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:31 pm

    That I doubt. Someone should alert him......
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    Post by DougNZ Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:33 pm

    NBK wrote:What position is this meant to be?
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    Newspaper position, if I remember correctly.
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    Post by DougNZ Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:34 pm

    Jonesy wrote:That I doubt. Someone should alert him......

    Done.
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    Post by NBK Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:21 am

    Nagaoka wrote:Who is the autor?
    I am not sure anyone in the old forum wrote this:

    'A person who holds the rank of kyōshi or above, “can” always wear a kohaku belt, no matter what occasion, even if he has not been appointed as the instructor of the event, but still in good taste would not wear it while at Kōdōkan and not in function as an instructor.'

    The Kodokan has never presented the Butokukai-related honorific titles - renshi, kyōshi, hanshi - even though many Kodokan judoka were given such titles in the past, including Mifune, Nagaoka, and tons more. This included Kano himself, who was usually addressed by the Butokukai as 'Kano Jigoro judo shihan hanshi', but their use lapse post-war when the Butukokai disbanded. In fact, Kano shihan was more involved in the Butokukai than most people realize.

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    Post by Cichorei Kano Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:30 am

    NBK wrote:
    Nagaoka wrote:Who is the autor?
    I am not sure anyone in the old forum wrote this:

    'A person who holds the rank of kyōshi or above, “can” always wear a kohaku belt, no matter what occasion, even if he has not been appointed as the instructor of the event, but still in good taste would not wear it while at Kōdōkan and not in function as an instructor.'

    The Kodokan has never presented the Butokukai-related honorific titles - renshi, kyōshi, hanshi - even though many Kodokan judoka were given such titles in the past, including Mifune, Nagaoka, and tons more.  This included Kano himself, who was usually addressed by the Butokukai as 'Kano Jigoro judo shihan hanshi', but their use lapse post-war when the Butukokai disbanded.   In fact, Kano shihan was more involved in the Butokukai than most people realize.  

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    Agree. That part no one here wrote.

    Yes, Kanô himself awarded through the Butokukai some of those titles to some of the members of the 1906 committee.

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