HomeCan anyone tell me when kani basami was banned from competition judo (I really need a reference for an article I am writing). Also, does anyone know of any published articles on the dangers of this throw. Thank you.
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Kani basami
justcurious- Posts : 37
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I do not know when was kani-basami banned, from memory it was 1980s.
In "Kodokan Judo : Throwing techniques" by Daigo, Toshirō (1926 - ), transl. by White, Francoise, Tokyo, Japan, Kodansha Europe, 2005, 285p, ISBN 4770023308 at page 282 it is explained that banning of the throw was caused by "high profile incident" at 1980 Men All Japan selected Championships. It also adds that injury rate by this technique is very high.
Google search "yasuhiro yamashita kani basami" will give you the video Yamashita vs. Endo with unfortunate end.
In "Kodokan Judo : Throwing techniques" by Daigo, Toshirō (1926 - ), transl. by White, Francoise, Tokyo, Japan, Kodansha Europe, 2005, 285p, ISBN 4770023308 at page 282 it is explained that banning of the throw was caused by "high profile incident" at 1980 Men All Japan selected Championships. It also adds that injury rate by this technique is very high.
Google search "yasuhiro yamashita kani basami" will give you the video Yamashita vs. Endo with unfortunate end.
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It was banned after Yamashitas ankle was broken by a Kani Basami Attack.
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From wikipedia:
Yamashita went into the final of the 1980 All Japan championships as the favorite, but Endo put Yamashita in a Kani Basami, breaking Yamashita's fibula.[2] The match was declared a draw even though Yamashita was hurt and unable to continue. Kani Basami had been a legal move until the match, but the seriousness of Yamashita's injury caused officials to prohibit its use in international competitions.
Yamashita went into the final of the 1980 All Japan championships as the favorite, but Endo put Yamashita in a Kani Basami, breaking Yamashita's fibula.[2] The match was declared a draw even though Yamashita was hurt and unable to continue. Kani Basami had been a legal move until the match, but the seriousness of Yamashita's injury caused officials to prohibit its use in international competitions.
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The pressure in the technique is considerable but the fall is safe enough.
Yamashita decided not to take the fall, hence his injury.
Since he was a Japanese favorite, rather than say, hey, he got what he deserved, he needed to protect himself, the decision was to ban the technique.
Yamashita decided not to take the fall, hence his injury.
Since he was a Japanese favorite, rather than say, hey, he got what he deserved, he needed to protect himself, the decision was to ban the technique.
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Thanks everyone for your helpful responses.
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Are you sure kani basami was banned in the early '80s? Beacuse in this 1994 video, Hidehiko Yoshida tries a kani basami. https://youtu.be/NDRFKfQihO0?t=65
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Emanuele2 wrote:Are you sure kani basami was banned in the early '80s? Beacuse in this 1994 video, Hidehiko Yoshida tries a kani basami. https://youtu.be/NDRFKfQihO0?t=65
According to Daigo's book (referred to with thanks by Finarashi, above): "The Kodokan Judo refereeing rules state that the allowance or prohibition of kani-basami is decided at each contest" although the IJF banned it outright. I wonder whether the Yoshida bout was fought under Kodokan, rather than IJF rules?
Which leads me to ask another question. Does anyone know whether the Kodokan still decides whether to allow or prohibit this throw on a contest-by-contest basis?
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Kani Basami is a technique that was banned in competition after Yamashita had his Fibula broken by Endo...........however it is still part of the curricilum, and is found in the Shinmeisho no Waza, and as such, it is still a technique where the correct learning thereof is required.
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justcurious wrote:Emanuele2 wrote:Are you sure kani basami was banned in the early '80s? Beacuse in this 1994 video, Hidehiko Yoshida tries a kani basami. https://youtu.be/NDRFKfQihO0?t=65
According to Daigo's book (referred to with thanks by Finarashi, above): "The Kodokan Judo refereeing rules state that the allowance or prohibition of kani-basami is decided at each contest" although the IJF banned it outright. I wonder whether the Yoshida bout was fought under Kodokan, rather than IJF rules?
Which leads me to ask another question. Does anyone know whether the Kodokan still decides whether to allow or prohibit this throw on a contest-by-contest basis?
For a number of years, the Kodokan used their own rules. The video in question is from the All Japan Championships, which used a separate set of rules (the 2 that come to mind is that kani basami is legal and there is no koka, so no surprise you see kani basami) at the time. A few years back (I was told this, I don't know exactly when), the Kodokan decided they would just use the IJF rules.
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In 2011.davidn wrote:A few years back (I was told this, I don't know exactly when), the Kodokan decided they would just use the IJF rules.
BTW, thanks for the answers.
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