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    What is the name of this takedown?

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    Post by Sambo Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:49 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu5kr0XZROo

    What is the name of this takedown that Fedor makes at 0:02 / 1:19 / 1:35 of this video?

    Fedor is my favorite fighter in MMA, he is a black belt of judo and sambo!


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    Post by Sambo Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:04 am

    nobody knows????? Crying or Very sad

    I'm starting in the judo Very Happy
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    Post by NBK Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:41 am

    Sambo wrote:nobody knows?????  Crying or Very sad

    I'm starting in the judo Very Happy
    You're not starting with this throw in judo as it is not in the list of 100 recognized techniques.

    It is in sumo as sukuinage / 'beltless arm throw' in English. Sometimes I do it in judo for fun to show how sumo techniques work. It's usually a surprise to judoka, but it's also risky to get the underhook. Surprisingly strong, subtle move, as seen in your video.

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/techniques/ look for sukuinage, good views of it.

    Have fun!
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    Post by NBK Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:03 pm

    NBK wrote:
    Sambo wrote:nobody knows?????  Crying or Very sad

    I'm starting in the judo Very Happy
    You're not starting with this throw in judo as it is not in the list of 100 recognized techniques.

    It is in sumo as sukuinage / 'beltless arm throw' in English. Sometimes I do it in judo for fun to show how sumo techniques work. It's usually a surprise to judoka, but it's also risky to get the underhook. Surprisingly strong, subtle move, as seen in your video.

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/techniques/ look for sukuinage, good views of it.

    Have fun!
    BTW there is a 'sukuinage' in judo, different technique
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWdv1E9vg3o
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    Post by Sambo Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:25 am

    NBK wrote:
    Sambo wrote:nobody knows?????  Crying or Very sad

    I'm starting in the judo Very Happy
    You're not starting with this throw in judo as it is not in the list of 100 recognized techniques.

    It is in sumo as sukuinage / 'beltless arm throw' in English. Sometimes I do it in judo for fun to show how sumo techniques work. It's usually a surprise to judoka, but it's also risky to get the underhook. Surprisingly strong, subtle move, as seen in your video.

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/techniques/ look for sukuinage, good views of it.

    Have fun!
    Thanks for the reply my friend, I did not know that she was not part of the techniques recognized by judo, I met her through Fedor Emelianenko, which is a black belt of judo and sambo, I think a fantastic imbalance, again thank you! I'll check the videos!
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    Post by Sambo Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:58 am

    NBK wrote:
    NBK wrote:
    Sambo wrote:nobody knows?????  Crying or Very sad

    I'm starting in the judo Very Happy
    You're not starting with this throw in judo as it is not in the list of 100 recognized techniques.

    It is in sumo as sukuinage / 'beltless arm throw' in English. Sometimes I do it in judo for fun to show how sumo techniques work. It's usually a surprise to judoka, but it's also risky to get the underhook. Surprisingly strong, subtle move, as seen in your video.

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/techniques/ look for sukuinage, good views of it.

    Have fun!
    BTW there is a 'sukuinage' in judo, different technique
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWdv1E9vg3o
    I agree, they are pretty much the same technique, thank you dear friend!
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    Post by NBK Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:16 am

    Sambo wrote:
    NBK wrote:
    NBK wrote:
    Sambo wrote:nobody knows?????  Crying or Very sad

    I'm starting in the judo Very Happy
    You're not starting with this throw in judo as it is not in the list of 100 recognized techniques.

    It is in sumo as sukuinage / 'beltless arm throw' in English. Sometimes I do it in judo for fun to show how sumo techniques work. It's usually a surprise to judoka, but it's also risky to get the underhook. Surprisingly strong, subtle move, as seen in your video.

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/techniques/ look for sukuinage, good views of it.

    Have fun!
    BTW there is a 'sukuinage' in judo, different technique
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWdv1E9vg3o
    I agree, they are pretty much the same technique, thank you dear friend!
    De nada.....

    No, they are meant to be very different. Judo sukuinage is a lift from behind as uke enters but hasn't taken tori's balance, leaving himself vulnerable to a strong lift.

    Also, you can perform the sumo sukuinage without the underhook, just using the collar of the gi. Fun to try, I'm just not sure that anyone teaching judo will appreciate it for what it is. Particularly from a beginner supposedly learning judo.
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    Post by Sambo Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:58 am

    NBK wrote:
    Sambo wrote:
    NBK wrote:
    NBK wrote:
    Sambo wrote:nobody knows?????  Crying or Very sad

    I'm starting in the judo Very Happy
    You're not starting with this throw in judo as it is not in the list of 100 recognized techniques.

    It is in sumo as sukuinage / 'beltless arm throw' in English. Sometimes I do it in judo for fun to show how sumo techniques work. It's usually a surprise to judoka, but it's also risky to get the underhook. Surprisingly strong, subtle move, as seen in your video.

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/techniques/ look for sukuinage, good views of it.

    Have fun!
    BTW there is a 'sukuinage' in judo, different technique
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWdv1E9vg3o
    I agree, they are pretty much the same technique, thank you dear friend!
    De nada.....

    No, they are meant to be very different. Judo sukuinage is a lift from behind as uke enters but hasn't taken tori's balance, leaving himself vulnerable to a strong lift.

    Also, you can perform the sumo sukuinage without the underhook, just using the collar of the gi. Fun to try, I'm just not sure that anyone teaching judo will appreciate it for what it is. Particularly from a beginner supposedly learning judo.

    Okay, I understood what you said, and I'm not going to ask my teacher to teach me this, I was just curious to know the name of the technique, I'm in the first judo classes, private tutoring, he's teaching me techniques for now osotogati, ouchigari, kouchigari, and I do not want to skip steps in learning, thanks for the tips!
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    Post by Sambo Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:05 pm

    After reading and analyzing a lot, I came to the conclusion that this blow from Fedor Emelianenko is the Sukuinage of Sumo, thank you ... I like to study and learn about martial arts!

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