Thank you wdax.
wdax wrote:The point is: Uke moves forward and Tori uses Uke´s momentum to pull him off-balance.
In both cases Uke´s forward momentum is used to unbalance him.
In fact: if Tori and Uke stand in close distance, moving forward to apply migi-shizentai can be recognized as a "push", but of course it is not "attacking by a push".
I read the text again yesterday and your quote about point gave me more understanding.
I practiced (and taught) this action exactly how Draeger described it for about 25 years. It was not only me, but in the whole country it was done like this.
Then I helped Dieter Born to translate the Nage-waza book of Daigo-sensei. When he sent me the draft of the translation - which was in line with the Kodokan booklet - i replied, that the description is "wrong" and should be corrected. But it was the beginning of some doubts that came up.... So I checked all other sources I had, but none of them supported Drager´s opinion.
A few month later Komata-sensei came to Germany to teach Nage-no-Kata and asked me to serve as his Uke. I step forward with a full step and leaving no chance for him to pull in the first step. He could only retreat. Of course he corrected me. I should move forward into migi-shizentai, he must react to keep the distance constant, uses this movement to make a bigger - a full - step, pulls me and forces me to also make a full step as a reaction to his pulling action. So this little step is:
- action (Uke moves forward by half step into migi-shizentai)
- reaction (Tori uses this opportunity to pull Uke further forward then Uke wanted in order to break his balance)
- reaction (defence by Uke, who follows Toris pulling action and preserves his balance.
This sequence brings both in motion with Tori continuing his attempt to break balance with a step of "normal" lenght(!) and Uke following Tori. During the third step Tori suddenly changes the lenght of his step, takes Uke by surprise and succeds in unbalancing him.
(1) Here are some slight variations between the 6 techniques
- Uki-otoshi: Tori second step is a little bit longer then the first so kuzushi starts in the second step and is gradually
- Kata-guruma: can be done like Uki-otoshi, but is not really required
- Harai-goshi: If Tori would make a longer 2nd step to increase the distance , he would have problems to put his right hand on Uke´s shoulder blade. So we have a different kind of kuzushi: kuzushi is not created by increasing the distance between the bodies, but by pulling the upper body of Uke closer to Tori to bring Uke off-balance to his front
- Tsuri-komi-goshi: Uke succeds in preserving his balance. Kuzushi starts after a feint of a "high" hip-throw
- Sasae-tsuri-komi-ashi: Tori´s 2nd step with the left foot is of "normal" lenght, kuzushi comes from increasing the distance by changing the pattern of the steps. Tori does not complete the 2nd tsugi-ashi, but stepping with his right foot suddenly behind his left foot and creates more space to generate kuzushi.
- Yoko-gake: Kuzushi is not generated by increasing the distance of the feet, but by sutemi.
In todays demonstrations - even on top-level - the action/reaction/reaction is not always clearly done. Very often it is only a step with gripping, initiated by Uke, but a "friendly" walk. Also we very often see pauses between the 1st and the 2nd step, what should not be done.
The basic idea, which has to be studied, is how Tori is making the most effective use of Uke forward momentum to generate kuzushi with an Uke, who is active until very last moment.
If you carefully read Dreager, then you find out, that he does not contradict these points. But many times he is IMHO understood to dogmatic.