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Stacey wrote:pft, I have a medical alert bracelet, and I'm not 50, and have never been to the Olympics, even as a spectator.
BillC wrote:The sad thing is ... this is what judo is being reduced to ... "a Japanese martial art that consists of takedowns and throws." And it is being represented and taught incorrectly as here. Just last evening I struggled ... again ... to show a student fresh from a bankrupt BJJ club that ipponseoinage was not some kind of falling down arm drag, not some kind of weak hip throw
Stacey wrote:BillC - at least the fly by night bjj studios are going out of business and students are finding their way to your dojo. At least they have some concept of stuff, instead of somebody learning everything online and then coming to your dojo thinking that s/he can take on everybody.
Stacey wrote:BillC - at least the fly by night bjj studios are going out of business and students are finding their way to your dojo. At least they have some concept of stuff, instead of somebody learning everything online and then coming to your dojo thinking that s/he can take on everybody.
I like MMA. I like the fact that highly competitive athletes can actually make a living doing it with fewer fights every year, a lot fewer fights. The lower ranks of MMA contests really bother me, but look at how the US treats its judo athletes and ....
If an MMA athlete comes to a judo dojo and plays judo, learns judo, respects judo - what's wrong with that? Would you refuse to teach a football player because of the high percentage chance that, if he spent any time in the NFL, he's suffered from that same brain damage and other physical ailments? Or how about a boxer?
If a person comes to the dojo with the sole intention of being able to pound somebody in the MMA ring, it's different, but then we run into similar problems with people who have domestic violence backgrounds, or any other self-offense purpose in mind.
You know the Judo Forums are getting old, when BillC's post are the main words of wisdom around !BillC wrote:- I find MMA to be boring. I spend all the time wondering why ... if this is a "real fight" ... someone doesn't just haul off and kick the other guy in the nuts, stomp the knee, gouge the eyes, break fingers, fight with no clock to utter exhaustion, etc. But I also find it to be culturally dangerous ... not something to be taught to children or something that parents should encourage kids to admire ... the certainly of TBI being only one factor. MMA glorifies behavior that leaks out into communities and encourages illegal and morally questionable behavior. Worldstar. Sorry, that's just the way I feel.
Jihef wrote:You know the Judo Forums are getting old, when BillC's post are the main words of wisdom around !BillC wrote:- I find MMA to be boring. I spend all the time wondering why ... if this is a "real fight" ... someone doesn't just haul off and kick the other guy in the nuts, stomp the knee, gouge the eyes, break fingers, fight with no clock to utter exhaustion, etc. But I also find it to be culturally dangerous ... not something to be taught to children or something that parents should encourage kids to admire ... the certainly of TBI being only one factor. MMA glorifies behavior that leaks out into communities and encourages illegal and morally questionable behavior. Worldstar. Sorry, that's just the way I feel.
finarashi wrote:Jihef wrote:You know the Judo Forums are getting old, when BillC's post are the main words of wisdom around !BillC wrote:- I find MMA to be boring. I spend all the time wondering why ... if this is a "real fight" ... someone doesn't just haul off and kick the other guy in the nuts, stomp the knee, gouge the eyes, break fingers, fight with no clock to utter exhaustion, etc. But I also find it to be culturally dangerous ... not something to be taught to children or something that parents should encourage kids to admire ... the certainly of TBI being only one factor. MMA glorifies behavior that leaks out into communities and encourages illegal and morally questionable behavior. Worldstar. Sorry, that's just the way I feel.
...and his wisdom is not distilled with years and years of learning (judging from his photo)
Ben Reinhardt wrote: ...
And for you guys who are concerned for the TBI issues of MMA...
Bill, regarding MMA as bad example to kids, encourages illegal and immoral behavior...
Come on, Bill, it's a tiny, tiny drop in the bucket compared to all the other horrible influences in the world. People have been doing bad things for a long time...
BillC wrote:Ben Reinhardt wrote: ...
And for you guys who are concerned for the TBI issues of MMA...
Bill, regarding MMA as bad example to kids, encourages illegal and immoral behavior...
Come on, Bill, it's a tiny, tiny drop in the bucket compared to all the other horrible influences in the world. People have been doing bad things for a long time...
It's possible to pour out an emotional response in a forum post, to overstate and under-explain at the same time. Unless one wants to write one of "those" posts. Anyway, I headwashed on MMA and I felt better afterwards. But always being the one who tries to tackle even from the floor, please allow me to respond to the points you responded to.
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In the macro sense I see in the video a culture I do not encourage. In the micro ... I see an under-informed person teaching something that could get someone hurt very badly ... or killed.
I am amused!
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