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    Uchimata - tsurite work - elbow up - 'Tenri' grip

    noboru
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    Post by noboru Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:08 pm


    Uchimata Elbow: Practical vs Classical - Judo Mat Lab - 柔道 - 内股
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZJcx2ppyB4&t=360s


    masterartform wrote:
    Excellent video! In Japan, the "elbow-up" grip is referred to as the 'Tenri' grip. Besides it being a religious movement, Tenri is known as a very strong school of Judoka. I forgot his name but the style was developed by taller judoka (as your analysis pointed out that classic grips are more difficult against crouching or shorter opponents) and is used in throws like uchimata and even osoto. Famous Judoka from the Tenri school include Shinohara, Anai, and many others.
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    Post by noboru Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:45 pm

    Takamasa Anai explanation od Uchimata

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iRYtSd9D6k


    Two interesting points for me.
    1. during Kuzushi - Anai's Tsurite fist goes to Anai's ear - it couses elbow up movement
    2. during Tsukuri - Anai's foot does'nt goes to top of triangle but little more to the side, next his foot is in the center
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    Post by Ben Reinhardt Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:29 am

    noboru wrote:Takamasa Anai explanation od Uchimata

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iRYtSd9D6k


    Two interesting points for me.
    1. during Kuzushi - Anai's Tsurite fist goes to Anai's ear - it couses elbow up movement
    2. during Tsukuri - Anai's foot does'nt goes to top of triangle but little more to the side, next his foot is in the center

    A couple of points.
    1.) He is demonstrating Uchi Mata[/i] in a kenka yotsu (opposing grips) situation (uke is lefty, tori is right). Entry and gripping methods (which work together) change depending on gripping configuration.
    2.) He switches from an inside lapel grip to outside lapel grip. Standard procedure is to get inside lapel position on uke in kenka yotsu. He seems to only throw from inside lapel position.
    3.) Which leads to why he is bringing his tsurite to his ear. He needs to stretch uke out, and make space to turn, which is facilitated by tsurite to ear. It's not particularly unusual methods.
    4.) He wants his jiko ashi (support leg at top of triangle, so moves the left side of his body further across to be able to do so. By doing so, he also can drive his jiko ashi in a straight line to top of triangle position. This is much fast then a curving back step.
    5.) Notice how he is far away from uke, not trying to close distance in initial stages of entry. In competition, opponent is very strong, and resisting, trying to maintain space (frame out), and it's difficult to close distance for tori.
    6.) Uke is already squared up (in shizenhontai), rather than migi shizentai. So Mr. Anai is leaving out (to simplifiy) how exactly he maneuvered uke into the more vulnerable shizenhontai (square) stance. This is pretty typical in judo instruction, starting out with uke already in shizenhontai and tori already in position to move for the attack. The focus is on the technique, not what you do to get into position to do the demonstrated technique. In competition, both judoka will be trying to maintain either migi or hidari shizentai, as it inhibits attacks.



    A common mistake for tori is to initially try to get close to uke and touch uke (chest/chest, hip/hip, side/side), especially in forward throws. The problem is uke is much stronger when she is not stretched out, with hands/arms close to body, plus can close off the space for tori to turn into.

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