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    Really one Judo?

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    Isr-Budokan


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    Post by Isr-Budokan Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:43 pm

    Please don't kill me for this post Sad
    Did the subject of separating judo to different disciplines (you know, Olympic/classic) was ever discussed here, or was ever considered or seriously suggested? I wont start now with ideas because maybe it was already discussed and participants will not be interested with this again.
    Anyway - have a wonderful week (Shavoua tov! Smile )
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    Post by finarashi Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:17 pm

    Judo is Judo and separation would serve nothing. In most of the world countries the organization and funding of sports is tied to strict adherence to formal organizations.

    There is nothing to stop you from practcing Judo the way you like.
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    Post by Quicksilver Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:38 pm

    Whilst you can't truly separate one 'type' of Judo from another and to do so would be a vast oversimplification as most if not all separations are, and I agree that such separation would serve little, I find the term highly multiaccentual and do not think that you can realistically say that Judo is Judo is unequivocally Kodokan Judo.

    Of course, you could argue that whilst there are multiple interpretations of what Judo may or may not be, 'Judo' refers to a very specific concept and set of practices, and the rest are merely adaptions, variations, or simply misnomers. But people and society are and is dynamic and complex and once an idea takes any form external to its creator it takes on an existence of its own, if you will, equally if not more dynamic and beyond the conceptions and intentions of the person that conceived it. This applies to art, to literature, to music, to language, to religion and so on; if it can be interpreted then people will interpret it and they will do so in a wide variety of ways.

    My point is that there are differences, sometimes minor, sometimes less so, and I think that to ignore these differences would be just as much of a mistake as it would be to turn them into absolutes.
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    Post by Isr-Budokan Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:00 am

    Thanks. Can't argue with any of you.
    The point I want to stress is this: a huge aspect of judo has become pure sport from any point of view. "Added values" like education, discipline etc. can be said about any sport. Yet, I don't think I know any other sport in which grades are involved. Athletes, of any kind, have "achievements". These are their grade. The status of a world champion is being a world champion. This is his grade and there is no other grade. His medals constitute his grade. Judo originated in a hierarchic system. Grades belong to hierarchic systems. Judo became sport but kept this hierarchic characteristic. Not self evident. As finarashi rightly said "tied to strict adherence to formal organizations". I would add to that - political organizations. We are trying, I would even say struggling, to integrate a typical hierarchic characteristic into a political system using public money... Not self evident. I can't see a way to do this without serious illnesses, that I believe we are all well aware of them.
    Thank you.

    (Apologies for English mistakes, not my mother tongue Embarassed )


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    Hanon


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    Post by Hanon Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:02 am

    Oh dear.

    Good luck with this.

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    Isr-Budokan


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    Post by Isr-Budokan Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:12 am

    Thank you Mike,
    Am I in danger of stoning? Smile
    I love the Tsuki Dashi photo.
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    Post by wdax Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:16 am

    But this is mune-oshi...
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    Isr-Budokan


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    Post by Isr-Budokan Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:19 am

    Of course - Mune Ochi. Sorry! (after midnight here... Embarassed )
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    Post by Hanon Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:17 am

    Like I said, good luck with this one.

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