Anyone got a grading coming up soon?

I’ve got my blue belt (2nd kyu) grading to do in the next month. Written down it sure does look a lot


FUNDAMENTAL SKILLS
Tachi-waza:
• Koshi -guruma
• Tani-otoshi
• Yoko-guruma
• Tomoe-nage
• Kata-uchi -ashi -dori
• Soto-kibisu-gaeshi
• Kata-guruma
• Morote-gari
• Soto-ashi -dori -ouchi -gari
• Uchi-kibisu-gaeshi

Shime-waza:
• Okuri-eri-jime
• Nami-juji-jime
• Gyaku-juji-jime

Kansetsu-waza:
• Ude-garami

PERFORMANCE SKILLS
Combination Techniques:
• Ude-garami from Kuzure-kesa-gatame

Tachi-waza:
• Yoko-kata-guruma-otoshi

Ne-waza:
• Koshi -jime – Uke makes Seoi-otoshi (dropping attack)
• Kata-te-jime - Uke in “all fours” position
• Nami-juji-jime – Uke on top (between Tori’s legs)
• Gyaku-juji-jime – Uke on top (between Tori’s legs)
• Okuri-eri-jime – Uke makes Seoi-otoshi (dropping attack)

Tachi-waza:
Kumi-kata:
• introduction to performance Kumi-kata (gripping) skills

Randori:
• demonstration of attacking defence, avoidance, continuous attacking performance skills in Tachi -waza and
Ne-waza in Randori with a co-operative partner

PERSONAL CHOICE 1
Candidates are required to:
• select and demonstrate four techniques from the BJA Technical Grading Syllabus and demonstrate them
individually and then as a series combinations and counters

OR
PERSONAL CHOICE 2
Kata
• demonstrate any two sets of the Nage-no-kata or any two sets of the Katame-no-kata or either of first 2
sets of the Go-no-sen-no-kata

TERMINOLOGY AND SUPPLEMENTARY KNOWLEDGE
Candidates are required to:
• know the common English translations and meaning of all Japanese terminology used in this section and
must be able to discuss with the Examiner the reasons for their choice of technique, grip etc
NOTES
1. During the Randori demonstration the player will be required to demonstrate knowledge of basic
performance skills e.g. Kumi-kata, Renzoku-waza, Renraku-waza and Kaeshi -waza. The duration of the
Randori will be approximately four minutes.

2. For the personal choice element, techniques must be demonstrated in an appropriate practical situation
that includes attacking opportunity, best grip and appropriate movement. Demonstrations must include
two combinations, two counters and two transitions into ne-waza. Combinations and counters can be
either tachi-waza or ne-waza or a combination of both. Techniques must be demonstrated in an
appropriate practical situation that includes attacking opportunity, best grip and appropriate movement.
It is expected that the player will select appropriate techniques which will allow for the demonstration of
the more advanced combinations and counters.

3. Kata is offered as personal choice for this grade. Demonstrations must be performed in the traditional
manner and include the formal opening and closing bowing procedures.

I'd wish you luck, but its not so much about luck or chance as hard preparation. If your sensei believes you ready to test, you probably are. On the other hand, any waza with 4 hyphens in the name may require a little luck in remembering just the name!

Please let us know when congratulations are in order.

good luck with your 2nd kyu, and as blacksmith said, its just prep, learn the translations and keep going over the throws in your head and you will be fine!

remmember you get scored on each technique out of 10, for 10 points you have to do the throw correctly AND break there balance, dont rush your throws, and you may be asked why you used a certain grip or to do the throw left handed

Nice one, I wouldn't sweat the grading, everyone knows that the quadruple-barrel named techniques were just made up by Roy Inman anyway! Just remember which one is which and you should be fine.
I have my 1st kyu coming up. Would have probably had it done already but its been delayed and then I cut up my toe which needed stitches. Maybe sometime next week I'll test. Then onwards to competing with dan grades in feb- Exciting stuff!

I would fail that exam! There are techniques in that syllabus I have never heard of, can't reference in any of the 120 plus books I have and non of my peers over here have heard of them either? The ones I have not heard of don't make a jot of sense in true Japanese language.

I guess you must be using the infamous UK BJA syllabus? Makes such a mockery of judo, the Japanese language and a grading syllabus.

Regardless, you have to pass an exam so all you can do is be prepared by learning what is required of you. I wish you the very best and if I can help you at all with the techniques I know please fire away, lol.

Mike

JudoMojo wrote:Nice one, I wouldn't sweat the grading, everyone knows that the quadruple-barrel named techniques were just made up by Roy Inman anyway! Just remember which one is which and you should be fine.
I have my 1st kyu coming up. Would have probably had it done already but its been delayed and then I cut up my toe which needed stitches. Maybe sometime next week I'll test. Then onwards to competing with dan grades in feb- Exciting stuff!

Good luck with your exam also. Let us know how it goes.

Mike

Hanon wrote:

JudoMojo wrote:Nice one, I wouldn't sweat the grading, everyone knows that the quadruple-barrel named techniques were just made up by Roy Inman anyway! Just remember which one is which and you should be fine.
I have my 1st kyu coming up. Would have probably had it done already but its been delayed and then I cut up my toe which needed stitches. Maybe sometime next week I'll test. Then onwards to competing with dan grades in feb- Exciting stuff!

Good luck with your exam also. Let us know how it goes.

Mike

Thanks, and I will do!

Also, you can see I wasn't exaggerating when I said Roy Inman made up those quadruple barreled names! ...I don't suppose you are familiar with Kata-hiza-te-ouchi-gake-ashi-dori?
To me it translates to: shoulder-knee-hand-major inner hook-leg grab. It is part of the 1st kyu grading, and in reality resembles ouchi gari with same-side leg grab finish, I have no idea why "kata-hiza-te-" is in the name at the start though.

JudoMojo wrote:

Hanon wrote:

JudoMojo wrote:Nice one, I wouldn't sweat the grading, everyone knows that the quadruple-barrel named techniques were just made up by Roy Inman anyway! Just remember which one is which and you should be fine.
I have my 1st kyu coming up. Would have probably had it done already but its been delayed and then I cut up my toe which needed stitches. Maybe sometime next week I'll test. Then onwards to competing with dan grades in feb- Exciting stuff!

Good luck with your exam also. Let us know how it goes.

Mike

Thanks, and I will do!

Also, you can see I wasn't exaggerating when I said Roy Inman made up those quadruple barreled names! ...I don't suppose you are familiar with Kata-hiza-te-ouchi-gake-ashi-dori?
To me it translates to: shoulder-knee-hand-major inner hook-leg grab. It is part of the 1st kyu grading, and in reality resembles ouchi gari with same-side leg grab finish, I have no idea why "kata-hiza-te-" is in the name at the start though.

I have this scenario in my mind where one day some Kodokan 10th dan, like Daigo sensei, will be in the UK and he will be asked to preside over a BJA exam. A syllabus would be placed in front of him and candidates for the exam asked to perform the techniques. Now, one or two candidates ask Daigo sensei for an explanation of one of these ...'peculiar'...techniques!. Can you imagine how Daigo sensei may react?:evil:. If it was Abe sensei I dare write he would rip the syllabus up!.

Originating from a person with very little ability in his own language its rather ironic he has tried to re invent the Japanese language. Such a brilliant coach and man on the mat. What possessed him to write this nonsense? I already regret writing this.....

Mike

Hanon wrote:

JudoMojo wrote:

Hanon wrote:

JudoMojo wrote:Nice one, I wouldn't sweat the grading, everyone knows that the quadruple-barrel named techniques were just made up by Roy Inman anyway! Just remember which one is which and you should be fine.
I have my 1st kyu coming up. Would have probably had it done already but its been delayed and then I cut up my toe which needed stitches. Maybe sometime next week I'll test. Then onwards to competing with dan grades in feb- Exciting stuff!

Good luck with your exam also. Let us know how it goes.

Mike

Thanks, and I will do!

Also, you can see I wasn't exaggerating when I said Roy Inman made up those quadruple barreled names! ...I don't suppose you are familiar with Kata-hiza-te-ouchi-gake-ashi-dori?
To me it translates to: shoulder-knee-hand-major inner hook-leg grab. It is part of the 1st kyu grading, and in reality resembles ouchi gari with same-side leg grab finish, I have no idea why "kata-hiza-te-" is in the name at the start though.

I have this scenario in my mind where one day some Kodokan 10th dan, like Daigo sensei, will be in the UK and he will be asked to preside over a BJA exam. A syllabus would be placed in front of him and candidates for the exam asked to perform the techniques. Now, one or two candidates ask Daigo sensei for an explanation of one of these ...'peculiar'...techniques!. Can you imagine how Daigo sensei may react?:evil:. If it was Abe sensei I dare write he would rip the syllabus up!.

Originating from a person with very little ability in his own language its rather ironic he has tried to re invent the Japanese language. Such a brilliant coach and man on the mat. What possessed him to write this nonsense? I already regret writing this.....

Mike

My coach said something similar. The only place I can find the more obscure Inman techniques is here is on the BJA website http://britishjudoeducation.org.uk/blue/soto-ashi-dori-ouchi-gari/

JudoStu wrote:

Hanon wrote:

JudoMojo wrote:

Hanon wrote:

JudoMojo wrote:Nice one, I wouldn't sweat the grading, everyone knows that the quadruple-barrel named techniques were just made up by Roy Inman anyway! Just remember which one is which and you should be fine.
I have my 1st kyu coming up. Would have probably had it done already but its been delayed and then I cut up my toe which needed stitches. Maybe sometime next week I'll test. Then onwards to competing with dan grades in feb- Exciting stuff!

Good luck with your exam also. Let us know how it goes.

Mike

Thanks, and I will do!

Also, you can see I wasn't exaggerating when I said Roy Inman made up those quadruple barreled names! ...I don't suppose you are familiar with Kata-hiza-te-ouchi-gake-ashi-dori?
To me it translates to: shoulder-knee-hand-major inner hook-leg grab. It is part of the 1st kyu grading, and in reality resembles ouchi gari with same-side leg grab finish, I have no idea why "kata-hiza-te-" is in the name at the start though.

I have this scenario in my mind where one day some Kodokan 10th dan, like Daigo sensei, will be in the UK and he will be asked to preside over a BJA exam. A syllabus would be placed in front of him and candidates for the exam asked to perform the techniques. Now, one or two candidates ask Daigo sensei for an explanation of one of these ...'peculiar'...techniques!. Can you imagine how Daigo sensei may react?:evil:. If it was Abe sensei I dare write he would rip the syllabus up!.

Originating from a person with very little ability in his own language its rather ironic he has tried to re invent the Japanese language. Such a brilliant coach and man on the mat. What possessed him to write this nonsense? I already regret writing this.....

Mike

My coach said something similar. The only place I can find the more obscure Inman techniques is here is on the BJA website http://britishjudoeducation.org.uk/blue/soto-ashi-dori-ouchi-gari/

Thank you so much for the clip. You see I known that renraku waza as Kuchiki taoshi, sometimes called kuchiki daoshi. Its not a waza in itself but a renraku waza. Even more odd is when a child this was the first renraku waza I had success with is shiai. At the best this is a henka waza and has no real title at all.

The only thing certain is it is not "soto ashi dori o uchi gari" . Soto and uchi as one waza. Absurd really? Never mind.

Thanks,

Mike

I'm putting a guy up for 2kyu in a couple of months, very different syllabus though.

We follow the Gokyu throw chart with each group per kyu level, so for blue he will need to know the first 4 kyu. He is expected to demonstrate counters and combos as required, plus transitions into groundwork. Groundwork is similar to what you have and he will need to know the Nage-no-kata first 3 parts.

For brown he would need to know the 5 kyu plus whole Nage-no-kata as an addition to above.

The terminology I find difficult in your description, as I am not conversant in Japanese I tend to avoid stringing words together. We use English as the language in the lesson and pick up the Japanese as a transition when guys get more experience and are heading to grading.

I'll have a few guys going to yellow (5th) and orange (4th) with the requirements being 1st and 2nd Gokyu respectfully.

The theory of this system is that at 1 kyu you will have been assessed on a the 5 groups of Gokyu throws plus counters and combos.

This may change at some point as we were looking at switching to an alternate grading criteria from Eastern Europe to better fit with the Sambo program but for the moment the Gokyu system seems to be the easiest for people to follow.

Good luck with the grading!

Cheers

Hanon wrote:

JudoStu wrote:

Hanon wrote:

JudoMojo wrote:

Hanon wrote:

JudoMojo wrote:Nice one, I wouldn't sweat the grading, everyone knows that the quadruple-barrel named techniques were just made up by Roy Inman anyway! Just remember which one is which and you should be fine.
I have my 1st kyu coming up. Would have probably had it done already but its been delayed and then I cut up my toe which needed stitches. Maybe sometime next week I'll test. Then onwards to competing with dan grades in feb- Exciting stuff!

Good luck with your exam also. Let us know how it goes.

Mike

Thanks, and I will do!

Also, you can see I wasn't exaggerating when I said Roy Inman made up those quadruple barreled names! ...I don't suppose you are familiar with Kata-hiza-te-ouchi-gake-ashi-dori?
To me it translates to: shoulder-knee-hand-major inner hook-leg grab. It is part of the 1st kyu grading, and in reality resembles ouchi gari with same-side leg grab finish, I have no idea why "kata-hiza-te-" is in the name at the start though.

I have this scenario in my mind where one day some Kodokan 10th dan, like Daigo sensei, will be in the UK and he will be asked to preside over a BJA exam. A syllabus would be placed in front of him and candidates for the exam asked to perform the techniques. Now, one or two candidates ask Daigo sensei for an explanation of one of these ...'peculiar'...techniques!. Can you imagine how Daigo sensei may react?:evil:. If it was Abe sensei I dare write he would rip the syllabus up!.

Originating from a person with very little ability in his own language its rather ironic he has tried to re invent the Japanese language. Such a brilliant coach and man on the mat. What possessed him to write this nonsense? I already regret writing this.....

Mike

My coach said something similar. The only place I can find the more obscure Inman techniques is here is on the BJA website http://britishjudoeducation.org.uk/blue/soto-ashi-dori-ouchi-gari/

Thank you so much for the clip. You see I known that renraku waza as Kuchiki taoshi, sometimes called kuchiki daoshi. Its not a waza in itself but a renraku waza. Even more odd is when a child this was the first renraku waza I had success with is shiai. At the best this is a henka waza and has no real title at all.

The only thing certain is it is not "soto ashi dori o uchi gari" . Soto and uchi as one waza. Absurd really? Never mind.

Thanks,

Mike

According to my grading sheet, Soto-ashi-dori-ouchi-gari = Outside leg grab major inner sweep &

Yoko-kata-guruma-otoshi = side shoulder wheel body drop

I must admit, I have no knowledge of how the Japanese language works but surely someone inside the BJA does and should have pointed out these errors to Mr Inman.

Ricebale wrote:I'm putting a guy up for 2kyu in a couple of months, very different syllabus though.

We follow the Gokyu throw chart with each group per kyu level, so for blue he will need to know the first 4 kyu. He is expected to demonstrate counters and combos as required, plus transitions into groundwork. Groundwork is similar to what you have and he will need to know the Nage-no-kata first 3 parts.

For brown he would need to know the 5 kyu plus whole Nage-no-kata as an addition to above.

The terminology I find difficult in your description, as I am not conversant in Japanese I tend to avoid stringing words together. We use English as the language in the lesson and pick up the Japanese as a transition when guys get more experience and are heading to grading.

I'll have a few guys going to yellow (5th) and orange (4th) with the requirements being 1st and 2nd Gokyu respectfully.

The theory of this system is that at 1 kyu you will have been assessed on a the 5 groups of Gokyu throws plus counters and combos.

This may change at some point as we were looking at switching to an alternate grading criteria from Eastern Europe to better fit with the Sambo program but for the moment the Gokyu system seems to be the easiest for people to follow.

Good luck with the grading!

Cheers

working through the sets of the Gokyu sounds like a logical thing to do. With regards to Kata, you don't have to learn any of it to get to Shodan in the UK. I'm personally not a fan of Kata and its unlikely i'll ever rise above the rank Shodan in my Judo life so this suits me.

Hopefully i'll be doign more of my grading tonight so I have the BJA website open on my work PC and my grading sheet in front of me so I can learn all the Japanese terminology albeit Roy Inman's version of:D

I have heard that the Inman techniques are not a permanent fixture in the BJA syllabus? And that we may lose them shortly; fingers crossed.

The thing is, they have been knocking round for years now and they haven't caught on in the slightest, they still send everyone rummaging for the BJA handbook at every grading. They make no sense named the way they are and they make the BJA look silly to the rest of the world.

Good luck with your gradings!

Today I received my 1st kyu (brown belt).

Now onto my first 1st kyu up (dan grades!) division comp in a few weeks, expect to see video of me getting beat up

JudoMojo wrote:Today I received my 1st kyu (brown belt).

Now onto my first 1st kyu up (dan grades!) division comp in a few weeks, expect to see video of me getting beat up

congrats on your brown belt.

I havent managed to do any more of my blue belt grading yet. Some people will say "there's no rush" but I really don't want to be fighting fit young guys for my black belt when i'm 45

JudoStu wrote:

JudoMojo wrote:Today I received my 1st kyu (brown belt).

Now onto my first 1st kyu up (dan grades!) division comp in a few weeks, expect to see video of me getting beat up

congrats on your brown belt.

I havent managed to do any more of my blue belt grading yet. Some people will say "there's no rush" but I really don't want to be fighting fit young guys for my black belt when i'm 45

There are those who would consider 45 to be young! With age come wisdom and guile...

JudoStu wrote:

JudoMojo wrote:Today I received my 1st kyu (brown belt).

Now onto my first 1st kyu up (dan grades!) division comp in a few weeks, expect to see video of me getting beat up

congrats on your brown belt.

I havent managed to do any more of my blue belt grading yet. Some people will say "there's no rush" but I really don't want to be fighting fit young guys for my black belt when i'm 45

Thanks man.
Its the opposite for me at 22. I'm just dying to be beat up! If there's one thing I can offer, its that I can take many hard falls.
Shodan is next target, gonna try hit as many shiai as possible to adapt to the higher level, and (hopefully) gain points.

I got my 2nd kyu (blue belt) on Tuesday. It's taken a while to complete, due mainly to the club not really having the resources to spend whole sessions just grading me whilst still teaching the rest of the club.
Anyway my Instructor reckons that, because I was green belt for well over a year I could grade for brown before the end of this year.

JudoStu wrote:I got my 2nd kyu (blue belt) on Tuesday. It's taken a while to complete, due mainly to the club not really having the resources to spend whole sessions just grading me whilst still teaching the rest of the club.
Anyway my Instructor reckons that, because I was green belt for well over a year I could grade for brown before the end of this year.

Congrads

JudoStu wrote:I got my 2nd kyu (blue belt) on Tuesday. It's taken a while to complete, due mainly to the club not really having the resources to spend whole sessions just grading me whilst still teaching the rest of the club.
Anyway my Instructor reckons that, because I was green belt for well over a year I could grade for brown before the end of this year.

Congrats man. Yeah should be alright grading up I imagine, plenty of time left this year. I found I was at blue for ages (over a year) but then I was already a decent brown belt by the time I graded... which is not a feeling I had on any other grade!

I have picked up 20/100 points towards my 1st dan now... Might have been more had I not dislocated my kneecap again Just have to get down to some dan gradings now... If I get 1st dan before sep then that will be white to black in under 4 years! (not counting on it though)

Those Inman names are laughable and make no sense. He sounds like he's throwing together random words he heard on Japanese tv.

JudoMojo wrote:

JudoStu wrote:I got my 2nd kyu (blue belt) on Tuesday. It's taken a while to complete, due mainly to the club not really having the resources to spend whole sessions just grading me whilst still teaching the rest of the club.
Anyway my Instructor reckons that, because I was green belt for well over a year I could grade for brown before the end of this year.

Congrats man. Yeah should be alright grading up I imagine, plenty of time left this year. I found I was at blue for ages (over a year) but then I was already a decent brown belt by the time I graded... which is not a feeling I had on any other grade!

I have picked up 20/100 points towards my 1st dan now... Might have been more had I not dislocated my kneecap again Just have to get down to some dan gradings now... If I get 1st dan before sep then that will be white to black in under 4 years! (not counting on it though)

If you do get it in under 4 years that will be impressive.
How often do you train?

JudoStu wrote:
If you do get it in under 4 years that will be impressive.
How often do you train?

It varies, but as I train as much as I possibly can for the most part

Been 5x a week pretty solidly for the past 9 months or so now, improved A LOT. Over the past years I've tried to do at least 2-3 a week and hit up some bjj ect lessons to fill up gaps if there wasn't much judo available.

Hanon wrote:The only thing certain is it is not "soto ashi dori o uchi gari" . Soto and uchi as one waza. Absurd really? Never mind.

I totaly agree with you Hanon. This exact situation is shown in Daigo sensei's book Kodokan throwing techniques as Kuchiki-taoshi. UK syllabus names are rubbish imo. Instead of forcing someone to perform a renraku/renzoku-waza version of a traditional throw as ONE attacking technique is crazy. Instead put Kuchiki-taoshi in the syllabus and suggest that situation as a solution to demonstrate the technique.