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    Koshiki no Kata by Toshiro Daigo Sensei 10° dan

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    Post by budoitaly Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:49 am

    Toshiro Daigo Sensei 10°dan, explain Koshiki no Kata during Kodokan Kata Seminar 2009:

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    Post by Stevens Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:19 am

    budoitaly wrote:Toshiro Daigo Sensei 10°dan, explain  Koshiki no Kata during Kodokan Kata Seminar 2009:


    Why is uke touching the leg of tori at 0.35 and 1.05?
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    Post by Cichorei Kano Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:03 am

    Stevens wrote:
    Why is uke touching the leg of tori at 0.35 and 1.05?

    If it were realistically performed you probably would not have to ask as it would have been obvious. Now sadly it isn't.

    You are asking about the action of uke's left leg, right ? Really, it does not necessarily need to tough tori's leg; it may or may not. What it is doing is produced a counterweight, a lever for the right hip throw which uke will be attempting on tori.

    The fulcrum is uke's right hip. As both individual supposedly are wearing a yoroi armor, simply coming a hip throw as an ordinary ô-goshi would not be sufficient. So the throw really is a tsuri-goshi. Uke can then use both of his hands to lift uke on his hip. tori's body weight is then at the upper side of the fulcrum on uke's hip whereas uke's oscillating left leg is at the othr side of the fulcrum hence giving extra impetus to uke's lifting of tori. In this exercise this is completely faked. Uke's action should be such that he actually throws tori over his hip flat on his back on the tatami unless tori properly blocks this action using his hara and tai-sabaki.
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    Post by Stevens Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:59 am

    Cichorei Kano wrote:
    Stevens wrote:
    Why is uke touching the leg of tori at 0.35 and 1.05?

    If it were realistically performed you probably would not have to ask as it would have been obvious. Now sadly it isn't.

    You are asking about the action of uke's left leg, right ?  Really, it does not necessarily need to tough tori's leg; it may or may not. What it is doing is produced a counterweight, a lever for the right hip throw which uke will be attempting on tori.

    The fulcrum is uke's right hip. As both individual supposedly are wearing a yoroi armor, simply coming a hip throw as an ordinary ô-goshi would not be sufficient. So the throw really is a tsuri-goshi. Uke can then use both of his hands to lift uke on his hip. tori's body weight is then at the upper side of the fulcrum on uke's hip whereas uke's oscillating left leg is at the othr side of the fulcrum hence giving extra impetus to uke's lifting of tori. In this exercise this is completely faked. Uke's action should be such that he actually throws tori over his hip flat on his back on the tatami unless tori properly blocks this action using his hara and tai-sabaki.

    Well, well, well, now i have a answer! Is it 's allright, i don't know! But you give an answer without a problem and one i can understand!

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