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    Is a French judo blackbelt grade also a jujutsu grade?

    Stevens
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    Post by Stevens Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:44 pm

    Is it true that a judo blackbelt promotion in France (IJF French Federation) is straight away a judo ànd jujutsu (dan)grade? Who can tell me?
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    Post by Emanuele2 Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:24 am

    Just to understand better. If I earn a black belt in judo in France, am I automatically a black belt in ju jitsu without training in it?


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    Post by DougNZ Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:51 pm

    Stevens wrote:Is it true that a judo blackbelt promotion in France (IJF French Federation) is straight away a judo ànd jujutsu (dan)grade? Who can tell me?

    Man, I really hope not.

    Our national jujutsu federation has recently received applications from a jujutsu club to have their black belts registered in the public register. The instructor is Dutch-born and most of the black belts have extensive judo histories and some karate, tkd and aikido grades. The problem is, if they had a 2nd dan in judo, he graded them to 3rd dan jujutsu. The applications were mostly declined because the federation is adamant that judo + aikido + karate does not equal jujutsu. Without extensive jujutsu training, grading from 2nd dan judo to 3rd dan jujutsu is as unreasonable as grading from 2nd dan jujutsu to 3rd dan judo.
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    Post by Jonesy Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:40 pm

    The answer to the OP is "No".

    The full name of the French Judo Federation is the FFJDA = Federation Francaise Judo, Jujitsu, Kendo et Disciplines Associaites - that is "French Federation for Judo, Jujitsu, Kendo and Associated Disciplines".

    I know it still has a jujitsu division, but that jujitsu division has its own syllabus and makes its own jujitsu promotions.

    http://www.ffjudo.com/ffj/La-federation/Les-disciplines-FFJDA

    You can see some FFJDA jujitsu here:

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xos8qd_les-20-techniques-imposees-de-ju-jitsu-dvd-ffjda_sport

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpmrew_20-techniques-imposees-ju-jitsu_sport

    In reality of course traditional jujutsu does not have dan ranks - instead it has the licence or menkyo system

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