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May I start by making it crystal clear I am a complete novice in the world of IT.
Ones forum profile, lets debate.
Gender; Does it matter? What use is such information? Judo is practiced my both sexes and both have an absolute parity in terms of the ability to write on the subject.
Age; People of all ages practice judo. Being 21 does not preclude a poster from being knowledgeable about the subject of judo, Being 80 does NOT mean that person has a copyright to all that is written on judo nor, in reality, may be even competent to write on the subject.
Country; Does that affect how a persons post should be read, if so how? A tatami in ABCland is the same as a tatami in Qwertyland. This is one of the core aims of judo bringing us together s one body.
Profession; Does this matter? When we debate judo is it not judo that becomes the subject that is common to us all?
Hobbies; I would guess judo would be the reason one joins a judo forum so its a safe gues to assume the poster is here to debate the subject at some level?
Humour; ??? That one takes the biscuit for me, never mind, let it go...
Religion; Judo doesn't have one. If we do that is our personal matter and nothing whatsoever to do with what or how we interact toward each other in judo be it here or in real life. On times ones religion can be a barrier toward building bridges that is a key area where judo can be used to build and destroy barriers by bringing us together as a human race and not a set of labels
Rank; Pointless question. This cannot be verified unless the said forum has a mass of admin people who are willing to accept written proof of rank, .More, There are kyu ranks who have written a far more intelligible post than some rather senior ranks have been capable of. Rank has been debated on judo forums for ever. EVEN IF we establish our ranks does this mean what we write is factual and correct and therefore in no need of further research and debate? Absurd notion. It is my experience that a poster value to judo debate, NOT THE RANK, shines through a post by its content. I am going to write the obvious. We are all pupils of judo, no one knows judo. Judoka grow with learned practice and maturity. What I wrote ten or even five years ago should have developed due to my further practice and growth in understand and knowledge.
Name; Okay lets have a forum rule where only posters may post using real names no nick names. How on earth can this be verified? Again the admin staff would need to have offices and in what way can we prove who we are? Copy of a pass port or ID card? For what to debate on a forum? More, an known poster can write as a known idiot whereas an unknown poster can write with the wisdom of Solomon. I have seen a a few posters write that they will not accept what a given poster has written if they don't know who wrote the post? Think about this there are several million people involved in judo. How can we know each other? lets take another scenario we accept that john Smith IS john Smith, how does that fact change the value of his post, John Smith could be a genius or a complete moron, THE only way to asses that is by the content of the post NOT who wrote it? ID theft. Personal vendetta, The council for internet security strongly advices people to give the minimum information possible when using the net. I am informed that ID theft is now the biggest 'white collar crime in the USA and Europe. I don't want to know who you are I respect my own ability to read what you write and base my judo opinions on that fact alone.
The above is written in regard to a judo forum, an exchange of opinions on a hobby. IF some one wants to marry one of my daughters or is asking me to invest money in their business that becomes an entirely different matter. Logical, practical, intelligent perspective is needed on this new forum
As Yet I have not seen or read any forum guidelines or rules here. I respectfully suggest that these rules are a priority for the admins here. it will be difficult to enforce a rule that does not yet exist.
A general word on form posting. Like it or not. Agree with it or not. There is only one way to asses the value of a poster on a forum and it is not there gender, age rank or any other information taken from there profile its in the content of their posts and how they conduct themselves on a forum.
PLEASE FORGIVE ME when I write that on times I have been so embarrassed on behalf of a poster who has written in the middle of a debate that he will not listen to a given poster unless he knows who they are and their rank? That informs any person with any level of intellect that the person requesting such information does not have the ability or knowledge or....brains....to read a post and use it for what it is.
I don't want to know any profile information regarding a fellow poster. I am deeply interested in what they write and how they write it.
Harmony and cyber friendship though debate comes from just that, debate. This is not the real world its the internet and it has taken me some years myself to realise that fact. If we cannot accept its limitations best w stay away from such a media?
Please think about this.
Mike
Ones forum profile, lets debate.
Gender; Does it matter? What use is such information? Judo is practiced my both sexes and both have an absolute parity in terms of the ability to write on the subject.
Age; People of all ages practice judo. Being 21 does not preclude a poster from being knowledgeable about the subject of judo, Being 80 does NOT mean that person has a copyright to all that is written on judo nor, in reality, may be even competent to write on the subject.
Country; Does that affect how a persons post should be read, if so how? A tatami in ABCland is the same as a tatami in Qwertyland. This is one of the core aims of judo bringing us together s one body.
Profession; Does this matter? When we debate judo is it not judo that becomes the subject that is common to us all?
Hobbies; I would guess judo would be the reason one joins a judo forum so its a safe gues to assume the poster is here to debate the subject at some level?
Humour; ??? That one takes the biscuit for me, never mind, let it go...
Religion; Judo doesn't have one. If we do that is our personal matter and nothing whatsoever to do with what or how we interact toward each other in judo be it here or in real life. On times ones religion can be a barrier toward building bridges that is a key area where judo can be used to build and destroy barriers by bringing us together as a human race and not a set of labels
Rank; Pointless question. This cannot be verified unless the said forum has a mass of admin people who are willing to accept written proof of rank, .More, There are kyu ranks who have written a far more intelligible post than some rather senior ranks have been capable of. Rank has been debated on judo forums for ever. EVEN IF we establish our ranks does this mean what we write is factual and correct and therefore in no need of further research and debate? Absurd notion. It is my experience that a poster value to judo debate, NOT THE RANK, shines through a post by its content. I am going to write the obvious. We are all pupils of judo, no one knows judo. Judoka grow with learned practice and maturity. What I wrote ten or even five years ago should have developed due to my further practice and growth in understand and knowledge.
Name; Okay lets have a forum rule where only posters may post using real names no nick names. How on earth can this be verified? Again the admin staff would need to have offices and in what way can we prove who we are? Copy of a pass port or ID card? For what to debate on a forum? More, an known poster can write as a known idiot whereas an unknown poster can write with the wisdom of Solomon. I have seen a a few posters write that they will not accept what a given poster has written if they don't know who wrote the post? Think about this there are several million people involved in judo. How can we know each other? lets take another scenario we accept that john Smith IS john Smith, how does that fact change the value of his post, John Smith could be a genius or a complete moron, THE only way to asses that is by the content of the post NOT who wrote it? ID theft. Personal vendetta, The council for internet security strongly advices people to give the minimum information possible when using the net. I am informed that ID theft is now the biggest 'white collar crime in the USA and Europe. I don't want to know who you are I respect my own ability to read what you write and base my judo opinions on that fact alone.
The above is written in regard to a judo forum, an exchange of opinions on a hobby. IF some one wants to marry one of my daughters or is asking me to invest money in their business that becomes an entirely different matter. Logical, practical, intelligent perspective is needed on this new forum
As Yet I have not seen or read any forum guidelines or rules here. I respectfully suggest that these rules are a priority for the admins here. it will be difficult to enforce a rule that does not yet exist.
A general word on form posting. Like it or not. Agree with it or not. There is only one way to asses the value of a poster on a forum and it is not there gender, age rank or any other information taken from there profile its in the content of their posts and how they conduct themselves on a forum.
PLEASE FORGIVE ME when I write that on times I have been so embarrassed on behalf of a poster who has written in the middle of a debate that he will not listen to a given poster unless he knows who they are and their rank? That informs any person with any level of intellect that the person requesting such information does not have the ability or knowledge or....brains....to read a post and use it for what it is.
I don't want to know any profile information regarding a fellow poster. I am deeply interested in what they write and how they write it.
Harmony and cyber friendship though debate comes from just that, debate. This is not the real world its the internet and it has taken me some years myself to realise that fact. If we cannot accept its limitations best w stay away from such a media?
Please think about this.
Mike
Last edited by Hanon on Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:46 am; edited 3 times in total (Reason for editing : Addition, spelling, then grammar.)
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