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What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
edbiology- Posts : 20
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What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by edbiology Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:07 pm
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NBK- Posts : 1298
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by NBK Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:24 pm
Nah, she didn't bite - nor did she attack her fingers. It's just the angle and the teeth marks that makes it look bad.......
tafftaz- Posts : 330
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by tafftaz Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:10 pm
Take a look at the Roper vs Pavia thread Jonesey started if you want to see a judoka bite.
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by NBK Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:26 am
had missed that.... no bad blood apparent there!
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by The_Harvest Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:05 am
She did bite.
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by Steve Leadbeater Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:10 am
Playing Devils advocate here.............
Did White pull her hand back into the mouth of Blue, thus forming teeth marks ??
just askin'.
Did White pull her hand back into the mouth of Blue, thus forming teeth marks ??
just askin'.
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by BillC Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:39 am
NBK wrote:no bad blood apparent there!
Let's hope not ... blood-borne diseases are often serious ...
Worth noting to those who like to use a cross-face thinking that the referee won't see, or that "it's just randori" ... please don't try to dislocate my jaw or smear my nose across my face ... I don't care what you do in other grappling sports.
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by Kenan79 Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:52 pm
It seems to me she definetelly took a bite and then released the hand at one point..
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by BillC Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:58 pm
No one has mentioned twisting the fingers ... ?
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by NBK Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:27 pm
BillC wrote:No one has mentioned twisting the fingers ... ?
NBK wrote:Nah, she didn't bite - nor did she attack her fingers. It's just the angle and the teeth marks that makes it look bad.......
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by BillC Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:51 am
NBK wrote:BillC wrote:No one has mentioned twisting the fingers ... ?NBK wrote:Nah, she didn't bite - nor did she attack her fingers. It's just the angle and the teeth marks that makes it look bad.......
OK asshole, you did make a passing and indirect reference. But someone ... who was that ... just made the point with me that Japanese does not include an understanding of cynical or sarcastic humor. Who was that ... ?
Having fun with John in your absence working the background of goshinjutsu ... no homo.
Safe trip and safe home my brother.
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The_Harvest- Posts : 71
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by The_Harvest Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:02 pm
Skip to 18:45
I don't know if it's the "desire" to win but the behaviour of some of the competitors has been downright nasty in the past tournaments I've watched.
I don't know if it's the "desire" to win but the behaviour of some of the competitors has been downright nasty in the past tournaments I've watched.
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by DrJudo Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:28 pm
It's clear that the Korean bit the Japanese in the wrist. What was her motivation? We don't know, but she should have been penalized with hansoku make. I have seen people getting hansoku for much less than that.
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by Bimyou Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:05 pm
DrJudo wrote:It's clear that the Korean bit the Japanese in the wrist. What was her motivation? We don't know, but she should have been penalized with hansoku make. I have seen people getting hansoku for much less than that.
Sorry I don't agree to me it looked like a quite accidental situation by both players. Watch the Japanese players face .....there was no sign of annoyance, dismay, offence or even surprise. Had she been bitten I believe she would have betrayed some emotion.
Things sometimes look worse if we are looking for critical incidents.
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by heikojr Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:08 am
It looks to me as if the Korean taps out, too!
heikojr
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The_Harvest- Posts : 71
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by The_Harvest Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:53 am
Bimyou wrote:DrJudo wrote:It's clear that the Korean bit the Japanese in the wrist. What was her motivation? We don't know, but she should have been penalized with hansoku make. I have seen people getting hansoku for much less than that.
Sorry I don't agree to me it looked like a quite accidental situation by both players. Watch the Japanese players face .....there was no sign of annoyance, dismay, offence or even surprise. Had she been bitten I believe she would have betrayed some emotion.
Things sometimes look worse if we are looking for critical incidents.
Japanese people rarely show any emotions during competitions. They are known for being stoical.
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23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Roman 3:23-26
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-10
medo- Posts : 276
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Re: What do you think? Did she bite? Or it was just a choking hand misplaced on the mouth?
by medo Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:05 am
Looks unfriendly, normally the injured jumps around to get the perpetrator disqualified at one time we were being taught in the national squad to feed the jacket into ones own mouth lift your head and frantically point to get the disqualification or Matte. So can work both ways, all part of the higher end game of judo.
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